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Fleet "El Dorado & Monroe Doctrine"

Fleet "El Dorado & Monroe Doctrine"
28 Points
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This is my entry for repkosai's In Search of El Dorado fleet challenge.

Not resting on their laurels after victories in the Barbary Wars & The War of 1812, The United States Navy hears rumors of various European powers mounting expeditions for the fabled "El Dorado". The President believes this to be a perfect opportunity to make a show of force under the Monroe Doctrine. The US is determined to keep Old World intervention out of the New World. In addition, finding the city would add a feather in the cap of the upstart republic, as well as help fill the coffers of the Treasury Department....

The Secretary of the Navy has ordered Matthew Perry to station President at the mouth of the Orinoco River. He has been supplied with enough funds & materials to hire Local Natives , with their knowledge of all the hidden inlets & coves, to guide the expedition. In exchange Commodore Perry is charged with providing protection to the native villages should the various European Powers or Free-booting Pirates make an appearance....

 
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Section: Ship #1 (4 miniatures)
  Miniature Set Number Type Rarity
1 x Captain PofR 132 Crew C
1 x Commodore Matthew Perry PofSCS 096 Crew R
1 x President PofBC 087 Ship U
1 x Ralph David RotF 060 Crew C
 
Section: Ship #2 (1 miniatures)
  Miniature Set Number Type Rarity
1 x Native Canoes SS 017 Ship U
 
Fleet Statistics
Distribution by Base Move
- bar 60 %  
S+L bar 40 %  
 

Distribution by Cargo Space
- bar 60 %  
2 bar 20 %  
4 bar 20 %  
 

Distribution by Faction Affiliation
America bar 100 %  
 

Distribution by Number of Masts
- bar 60 %  
1 bar 20 %  
4 bar 20 %  
 

Distribution by Point Value
- bar 20 %  
1 bar 20 %  
10 bar 20 %  
14 bar 20 %  
3 bar 20 %  
 

Distribution by Rarity
C bar 40 %  
R bar 20 %  
U bar 40 %  
 

Distribution by Type
Crew bar 60 %  
Ship bar 40 %  
 



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pirateaj14
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Subject:    Posted: August 20, 2017 07:42 pm

I originally thought of submitting an American fleet but the story that repkosai wrote is situated in 1537, 244 years before the USA was created. It still works as a fleet and I love the Native Canoes. If the President gets jumped by a 5-master or two or three smaller ships, it could be rough, but if she can make it she could do some damage.
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Subject:    Posted: August 20, 2017 10:41 pm

There's never a good way to mention a rule that was missed in fleet building

Or at least I don't know it

Despite their point cost, and efficiency for a challenge like this, the Canoes are actually super difficult to use because


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-The Tribal Chieftain crew assumes the full point cost of its associated set of native canoes for the purposes of fleet building, placement, point restrictions, and all other abilities or effects that refer to point costs.


Which means you'd be looking at 12 points for the canoes, and a ship of at least 12 points to hold them, which is 24 of the 25 points, with no extra crew until you add Commodore Matthew Perry.

And, unless I'm missing something, the President just can't hold that many points of crew on her, being limited to 14 points.

You had a great idea though, and used some solid American pieces to have, what would be, an excellent fleet. I bet with some reworking, or a fresh start given the restrictive point cost, you could have a solid entry for this contest. I look forward to seeing what you can do!
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Subject:    Posted: August 21, 2017 03:07 pm

So, in essence, I need to remove my shipwright to make this fleet legal. Is this correct?
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Subject:    Posted: August 21, 2017 03:38 pm


quote from crsluggo:

So, in essence, I need to remove my shipwright to make this fleet legal. Is this correct?

Yeah, that should do it
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Subject:    Posted: August 21, 2017 04:01 pm

Fleet edited. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!
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Subject:    Posted: August 22, 2017 05:57 am

I think this could be optimized a bit more, though it still gets at least a 4 as-is since the canoes are such a gold-running powerhouse and the President will be a beast at this low of a build total....

Since you only have American stuff in your fleet, you could "hire" the Rover or Mermaid . I'd totally understand if you didn't want to do that though for flavor purposes.

I think I'd prefer a helmsman on the President if you dropped the oarsman - this would make the President very fast and you'd still have a crew on the ship you could afford to lose before Perry and the captain go. You could even do a cannoneer instead, giving you the chance to redo two shots per shoot action (w/ reroll), but the speed would probably be more useful. (or have the shipwright as you originally wanted) Either way, since Perry activates after you see your opponent's fleet, you could modify the final crew as needed. I suppose Gus Schultz or Ralph David are even options as well, but at this point I think I'm giving you too many ideas.
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Subject:    Posted: August 22, 2017 07:40 pm

I like the idea of using Ralph David ! Thank you for it!

I'm not sure I can do shipwright, helmsman, or cannoneer because that would put me over my 14pt crew limit...

If I'm doing my math right:

10pts Native Chieftain
3pts Captain

1pt leftover
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Subject:    Posted: August 22, 2017 08:21 pm


quote from crsluggo:

I like the idea of using Ralph David ! Thank you for it!

I'm not sure I can do shipwright, helmsman, or cannoneer because that would put me over my 14pt crew limit...

If I'm doing my math right:

10pts Native Chieftain
3pts Captain

1pt leftover


Whoops, I got carried away and was using the build total as a reference and forgot about the President being 14 points. Sorry.
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Subject:    Posted: September 13, 2017 09:37 am

This fleet actually helped me design the El Dorado challenge map - I had to put in a second row of "starting islands" to accommodate the Native Canoes. Adding the Eternal keyword from Ralph David made the President a perfect fit to carry the Canoes' Chieftain. Still, if the President was successfully boarded, the question of what crew to lose became a tough one, as after Perry, all three crew were vital to the ship's survival. Overall, I'd say this fleet wasn't quite the 5 I rated it, but it came close enough to round up there. A very unique and solid build!
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